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    Yes Bern, respond to the present and make changes. That is very different from handing it over to the private sector. If the response is that we don't actually need the service then let's get rid of it. If we do need such a service as a nation (which I suspect is the case) then why sell off something that has value (not just financially) to 'us'.

    The NHS is another system that does still offer (some) excellent service. It is still not doing all it could/should but I refuse to accept this rather short sighted defeatist attitude. How long before this rot sets into supporting our liberties and freedoms? (both actually negated if we do not have the health to enjoy them)

    The war in Afganistan, in this souless approach of systems analysis, is not going 'great' but do we use this as an argument for us giving up?

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