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  I am a great believer in tough love Bern. Our problem is that there is too much 'trying to understand' thast lets the feckless and even the downright criminal off the hook.
  
  I certainly believe in giving people a hand up to get out of, or stay out of deprivation. The problem is that hand ups too often turn into hand outs that merely lock people into poverty. The only way to improve your lot is to work ultimately and it is better for us to improve opportunities to work than to increase or extend the benefit system.
  
  As for those despicable parents you referred to, they are as responsible and guilty in my book as their children and should pay the price there can be no excuse for those parents, non at all.

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