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    I think here Keith's original question is answered. Left and right can agree that there is a problem but will differ in the medicine to treat it.

    In respect of this issue the left go for all the soft cuddly options and are more willing to accept excuses and dip into other peoples pockets to subsidise sloth.

    The right are much less tolerant of sloth and less willing to dip into peoples pockets to subsidise the lazy useless lifestyles of the p*** takers.

    There are clearly two extremes of right and left demonstrated here with different shades between.

    Personally I am further to the right on this issue than most and I am convinced the present appalling situation is largely caused by an overgenerous benefit system and too many people willing to accept too many excuses. We need to toughen up and to correct this situatuion that has declined so far, some very drastic action is needed to pull it around in ordeer to achieve the right balance between stick and carrot.

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