Smugglers ITV 1
- Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,037
5 April 2011 00:5299920Documentary filmed in Dover about smuggling of drugs and tobacco by organised crime and holiday makers on itv 1 at 9 p.m. Tues. 5th. April. - 5 April 2011 04:1599927Well as we all know that is nothing new,it has been going on for years and it will never be stoped,even more so now with
the staff cutbacks. - 5 April 2011 09:0699942impossible to stop that sort of crime totally, too many trucks, cars and coaches going through.
if they started checking more than they do now the port would grind to a standstill. - 5 April 2011 09:1199944I think Alecs point was to let you both know the Documentary was on if you would like to watch it.grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
- 5 April 2011 09:5299957Thanks for letting us know about that one Alec..will tune in. We see here from all the press releases from HMRC and so on, that tobacco smuggling in particular is rife. There was so much of it and so much info bthat I sort of stopped using the press releases in the end, unless they were /are of specific novelty.email: dover7@msn.com
- 5 April 2011 10:5899966There are a LOT of the smoking public buy their tobacco illegally at the present time .... It needs to be dealt with more severely.
In the mid 1800s, there was a lot of tobacco smuggling went on in this area - the fines were, compared to today, VERY HIGH.
John FROST fined l6/-. Dover Petty Sessions / one and half pounds tobacco. (Dover Telegraph 3l.l0.l846 p.8 col.3)
Mary GRIFFITHS fined 32/- (0r 10-days imprisonment) for smuggling tobacco. Dover Police Report (Dover Telegraph 7 Apr 1838 p.8 col.2)
Richd. PHILPOTT Seaman. Dover Petty Sessions - long report - charged with smuggling tobacco. Discharged (Dover Telegraph l9 June 1847 p.8 col.3)
Wm PHIPPS and Stephen CURLING remanded for having possession of tobacco, thought to have been smuggled. PHIPPS fined 20/- (Dover Telegraph 29 Dec 1838 p.8 col.2)
Smuggling case - "the 2nd and final examination of Edward LOWTHER, Daniel GARDENER and George BATH, all fishermen belonging to the "May Flower"fishing smack, property of John COOK, on board of which vessel was found a quantity of smuggled tobacco snuff and cigars, took place last week. It appeared that there were 3,225 lbs tobacco, 1,213 lbs snuff and 412 tobacco stalks or cigars. They all pleaded guilty and were sentenced to pay £100 each, and in default of payment to be imprisoned in the Sandwich house of correction until fine is paid. The boys belonging to the vessel were discharged, it being supposed they acted under the influence and orders of the master and the men."
(Dover Telegraph 10 Jan 1846 p.8 col.2)---------------------------------------------------
Lincolnshire Born and Bred - 5 April 2011 10:5999969Wonder if any forumites will be featured ??
- Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
5 April 2011 11:0399970the sell of illeagle tobbaco will continue untill the uk tax falls in line with the european leval or the european leval rises to the uk leval. - 5 April 2011 11:1399972Speaking of press releases on this issue and how many there are..see my post no 5...just got the fiollowing in right on cue...
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FAO News Desks
A haulage company owner has been jailed for three and a half years, for attempting to smuggle almost 3.2 million cigarettes into the UK through Dover and evading over £500,000 in duty.
Mamode Rafiq Allyman (56), a Chatham haulage company owner from Gillingham, Kent was sentenced at Maidstone Crown Court after an investigation by HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC). He was stopped by UK Border Agency (UKBA) officers on 16 July 2009, as he arrived at Dover on a ferry from Calais.
The 1,888,800 'Raquel' and 1,307,600 'Gold Classic' branded cigarettes were found in shrink wrapped brown boxes during a search of the vehicle. When questioned, Allyman initially told officers that he had loaded the trailer in Holland, but once the cigarettes were discovered, he told officers that he had travelled to Calais and swapped trailers with one of his drivers who had collected a load from Holland.
Bob Gaiger regional spokesman for HMRC said:
"HMRC works with UKBA to identify and prosecute those who attempt to smuggle cigarettes into the UK. Cigarette smuggling is not a victimless crime and we will not hesitate to pursue those responsible. It costs the UK millions of pounds in lost revenue each year, money that could be used to fund vital public services. Anyone with information about the importation or sale of smuggled tobacco should call the Customs' Hotline on 0800 59 5000 or email customs.hotline@hmrc.gsi.gov.uk. "
Confiscation proceedings are in place.email: dover7@msn.com - 5 April 2011 12:1099976This Program is so old its not Customs any more is UK border force. dover docks are not under siege by smugglers. And its the British Government that are forcing people to Belgium to buy cheap Tobacco and Cigarettes .If they were to look a port security that would be more beneficial, they would find no French in the border box no British in the border box on the Dover side this is what happened last Friday when my cousin and i caught the ferry to France there was no one around, in fact I bet you all a thousand pounds each I could drive my car straight through with a pretend bomb in the boot and still get onto a ferry with no check's so any so called terrorist could do the same and blow the ferry up in the channel and if that was to happen you watch the shit hit the fan were was everyone siting on there backsides or blaming some one else people are always telling us there home grown Terrorist in UK and it could happen.So why not do a Program about this countries security and its failings.
- 5 April 2011 12:1299977the latest one is forged first class stamps, caught in a car belonging to a polish bloke from manchester.
maybe sheli was right in post 7, a star could be born this evening. - 5 April 2011 16:28100037Not directly related but the island has very tight money laundering laws and last week an oap attempted to pay in £40 pounds worth of co-op dividend stamps into the in house post office at the co-op (most large stores,spar,waitrose etc have a small post office). The police were called............its been running in the local press for days...
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 5 April 2011 22:22100134Have just watch the biggest con on TV each one of the clips were staged the two people off the cruise liner who were actors and one allowed to go with all them cigs this is the British Government trying shock tactics on people going abroad to warn them that they maybe stopped or to justify the customs jobs I have been making films for 8 years and know when to stage a setup.
- 5 April 2011 22:28100139Why are you saying all this Mr Taylor when you know what we have seen is true? They would not do a mock up why should they, when we see it happing each day of the week in Dover
- 5 April 2011 23:11100147Mr Matcham lets take the lorry with the bananas ok the two long trays that were found and pulled out, the driver was aloud to go but the trailer was kept so why did they not put the trays back and follow this lorry they know were it was going then they could see who came to collect it. No that trailer had been specifically made two show how this could be done and to warn drivers of this X Ray Machine that the Government had paid a small fortune for .Yes people do smuggle and get caught but all this in a hour the Cameras were not at dover for more than an hour to get setup shots ask the film company. and i know that this as been filmed over several months and also ask were are the cutters now. I am only saying what i see I am not trying to demean any ones jobs, The lack of security in the port of Dover would have been a better Program.
- Alec Sheldon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 18 Aug 2008
- Posts: 1,037
5 April 2011 23:58100150Thanks for that Ian #4. Funny enough I fell asleep and only caught the last half hour.
- Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
6 April 2011 05:37100159alec,try more lemonade in your shandys,then you wont fall asleer so early. 