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    no point in applying fines if they do not get paid heike, roger and a few of us have been in constant contact with waste services at ddc and they do respond to e mails and photos sent.

    the real problem is one of overcrowding and nothing seems to be done about this.

    a problem all over western europe wherever the roma people congregate, i have seen the same things said by council leaders in spain, france, holland and italy that echo what david blunkett has said about sheffield.

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