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    Newspaper, MI5 deny cover up.... why bother? ........

    MI5 are supposed to keep secrets, they are supposed to ensure the security of the State and that means doing some dirty nasty things. I would be worried if they did not.

    Do I care if they are 'complicate in torture' of some muslim terrorist? I hope they do tear such monsters apart to get information on plots against us, its their job.

    So called 'liberal' commentators claim that torture dont work - frankly thats nonsense. Besides there is torture and then there is torture. The old fashioned thumb screws until they confess is no good, but there are ways of interogating that do work now classed by some as torture. What is the problem with sensory deprivation, being shouted at, slapped around a bit - these terrorists deserve it.

    Court cases such as we have just seen make us look weak and vulnerable. It encourages our enemies to greater efforts as a result. We should shut up and let our security forces do what is needed.

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