Shared space in deal
- 14 May 2014 11:18266305seen the same thing in ashford, not a fan of the idea myself.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/deal/news/plan-for-shared-space-on-17189/ - Bob Whysman
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14 May 2014 12:46266310Nor me Howard. The Cycle lanes in Brighton coupled with the 20mph speed limits were designed to stop accidents, it never worked. It causes more problems than it solved and as for sharing roads with pedestrians as well as cars.........
Perhaps the instigators of this idea should consider sharing the space between their ears with a bit of common sense as pedestrians and vehicles sharing the same space is asking for trouble. Consider the blind and elderly too
Do nothing and nothing happens. - 14 May 2014 12:54266313I know Liz Sykes who is mentioned in the article. She is blind and would have to stop going to that area as she said. Liz is a community volunteer and she needs more access not less as do lots of others.
- 14 May 2014 13:00266314Bob Whysman wrote:Nor me Howard. The Cycle lanes in Brighton coupled with the 20mph speed limits were designed to stop accidents, it never worked. It causes more problems than it solved and as for sharing roads with pedestrians as well as cars.........
Perhaps the instigators of this idea should consider sharing the space between their ears with a bit of common sense as pedestrians and vehicles sharing the same space is asking for trouble. Consider the blind and elderly too
you are so funny bob, putting in your own objections so others don't. I love your style! - Jan Higgins
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14 May 2014 13:39266319Chrissi, sorry to be rude but when will you accept that they are entirely different people, "our Bob" is not "your Bob".
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 14 May 2014 14:06266326can't think why this is such a good idea, must make drivers nervous not knowing if a pedestrian is going to suddenly change direction bob.
we have the shared cycle path and walkway in dover and that is hazardous enough. - 15 May 2014 17:54266445Agree with the above posters. Shared Space is a bad idea if Ashford is anythiing to go by. Pedestrian v car - there is only one winner.
- 16 May 2014 09:22266481A great idea and part of the slow process of regaining our towns and villages from the car. Look at the space devoted to pedestrians v the car when you are next in town and see where priority is given. Cycle paths should also be given greater prominence; squeezing them onto already restricted pavements (or setting them contra traffic flow as in Stembrook) is just tokenism and only gives rise to irritation on.
A bold new strategy is required.............., oh! That's why it won't happen here!
Take some time to look at a place where vision and courage have been applied to see what can be achieved: http://www.sustrans.org.uk/our-services/what-we-do/route-design-and-construction/shared-space-busy-intersection-poynton - 16 May 2014 10:40266484Watched the link and it is very interesting. The video had lots of feedback from locals saying how well it is working.
Since the video was made by the people who were responsible for the idea, I did a Google to see if there were any objections.
The link below shows a car which has crashed into a shop front with the comment from the shop owners: "We have been waiting for this to happen. The cars come thundering past here, the shop shakes. Nearly every day there are minor bumps and incidents that don't get reported. So we've been expecting something like this."
http://www.macclesfield-express.co.uk/news/local-news/poynton-shop-crash-ignites-new-2528455
On balance, the scheme appears to be working. One thing that strikes me is that the very high traffic flow requires motorists to understand precisely how roundabouts work and that could be a drawback in Dover where there are a high proportion of foreign drivers. It would certainly not work on Townwall Street where a substantial proportion of the foreign HGV's demonstrate a sketchy or non-existent knowledge of the right-of-way on British roundabouts! - Bob Whysman
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17 May 2014 21:54266600Jan Higgins wrote:Chrissi, sorry to be rude but when will you accept that they are entirely different people, "our Bob" is not "your Bob".
Jan,
Chrissi,
Chrissi, Chrissi, quite a missy,
How does your garden grow?
With many wails, and cockeyed tales,
And many Bob's all in a row!Do nothing and nothing happens. - Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,931
18 May 2014 09:17266619
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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