13 October 2010
18:3574855Am I wrong in thinking there has been a further rock fall from the top of Shakey? From down here it looks as though there are two lumps out of it. Maybe following all that heavy rain several days ago?
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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13 October 2010
19:0774869That particular area is prone to rock-fall. In 1915, or thereabouts, two cliffs collapsed, and a train passing through the tunnel just got out in time!
Brian Dixon
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13 October 2010
19:0974872diana i will have tomorrow in daylight from my bedroom window,but to make sure i will take a closer look from the underpass.

Brian Dixon
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14 October 2010
11:1674978diana,good news the afore said cliff is still in tact,no chalk falls of late.

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14 October 2010
21:2075064SMITHEN, Wm employed on railway works near Shakespeare Cliff, chalk gave way and he was killed. Inquest: accidental death. Left wife and several children (Dover Telegraph 9 June 1838 p.8)
BROWN, Joseph, aged 40. Killed by fall of chalk near Shakespeare Cliff. Inquest: "Accidental death"
GRAFFAN, Thomas aged 64, killed by a fall of chalk near Shakespeare Cliff, Dover. Inquest: Accidental death
(both mentioned in Dover Telegraph 15 Sep 1838 p.8)
"SHAKESPEARE SLIPPING"
Shakespeare's Cliff: This cliff has suffered from another of those falls which, since the time of our honoured bard, has lessened its altitude. Early on Monday morning last a surface of chalk 254 feet in height, extending to a length of 353 ft on the eastern face, 15 ft thick, measuring 47,131 yards and supposed to contain about 48,000 tons of chalk, scaled off and fell to the base; from a fog at the time the slip was not seen but the noise of the fall was heard at a long distance. This recent fall will doubtless repay the search of the geologist. A smaller fall of about 10,000 cu.yds has since occurred. (Kentish Gazette 9 March 1847 back page col.2)
and I like this account of the slippage:
An extensive slip has occurred at Shakespeare's Cliff which seems to be gradually breaking up its establishment and leaving England in disgust. This may be in consequence of the little hold Shakespeare has lately had upon his native country; and the cliff, probably is only crossing the Channel to seek a home in more congenial lands. Wither will it go to ? Will it settle on the French coast or sail direct for New York? It would be curious to find Shakespeare's cliff at Calais with a board stuck up "Removed from over the way". We are confident that Shakespeare himself will be thought all the more of if he had a firm footing in France and that his drama and his cliff would rise much higher in the public estimation when pieces of it could be taken from the French (Punch) (Kentish Gazette 23 March 1847 back page col.1)
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 October 2010
21:3275067brilliant stuff kath, the wonder of the english language in all eras never ceases to amaze me.
most of it thanks to william of course.
15 October 2010
19:3975152The profile of the cliff has changed. I am talking about right up the top where previously it sloped backwards slightly before reaching it's peak.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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16 October 2010
08:0875176Yes Diana something does look different now that you mention it. If I can find the time later will try and trawl back through some of my earlier photos to see if I can spot whats what.
Ooh you sharp eyed one you!

Brian Dixon
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16 October 2010
14:2575208diana,just had another look at the cliff at 14 25pm and it still looks the same as it 13 years ago when i moved up to aycliffe.

16 October 2010
14:5975212Brian are you sure you are looking at the right cliffs????
Brian Dixon
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16 October 2010
18:4575232mel,YES.havent gone senile yet so me docter tells me.
17 October 2010
09:5575270Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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18 October 2010
10:1175400Okay...here we are with the scientific experiment !!
Can you spot the difference/??
First up taken April 20 2010 ( daughter BB's birthday by a strange co-incidence)
This one below taken just 4 minutes ago (18 Oct)...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 October 2010
11:2275437cannot see anything different from the two pictures, brian is looking from aycliffe, could be different if viewed from a ferry.
Brian Dixon
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18 October 2010
15:4475487i concure with howard its looks the same.seeing i live only 100 yards away from the cliff.