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    I agree with you and Ross. I cannot help but wonder now that the stigma, which is a good thing, of having a baby out of wedlock has gone if that has had an effect.

    Re commercialisation, look how provocative the pop videos are, in my childrens' time they would not have been allowed on TV and Mrs Whitehouse would have blown her top. . Sex seems to be used to sell everything, once upon a time it used to be just the car industry with the models draped over the car's bonnet.

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