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    Barry the threat of terrorism is largely from within. Are you suggesting the Army should patrol Southall, Luton and Oldham? If they did, we would start seeing IEDs on our streets in large numbers. My point is not that we should totally avoid getting involved militarily abroad but that if we do, it should not be funded out of the defence budget. Because if we do fund it out of the defence budget, then cuts will have to be made elsewhere. For example, if there had been no Iraq and no Afghanistan, it would not have been thought necessary to axe Nimrod or the Ark Royal.

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