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  you're right roger, paul holt of white cliffs countryside partnership led the 7 of us around giving an informative and entertaining commentary on what was around us and the history. i only saw 2 other people on the site.
  
  here we have the oddest couple i have seen for a while.
  
  

  

  
  
  hopefuily someone will remind me of the name of this shrub, the berries of which have more vitamin c than oranges and are now used in some of our finest restaurants
  
  

  

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