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    I first met Phil about 10 years ago up at the castle when the "Siege of 1215" exhibition was on, I was the only one on that particular tour so we got talking and he was clearly very knowledgeable about Hubert De Burgh who is largely unknown outside of Dover other than by history buffs. He was in the process of writing a book on the man, I don't know if it ever got published.

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