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    Sad to say it but I think Peters experience there about peeps doing it to maintain benefits is all too true. If you are not seen to be looking you can get in shhtuck benefitswise.

    Although as you say there Howard some people on the TV programme were keen to better themselves, which was good to see. Although some at some of the courses or classes were not so believable. I didnt think for example all those single mums were really at that class as a career move, I just didnt buy it, more a benefits protector.

    Back in the eighties and nineties when we recruited personnel, people then seemed keener to work. I dont know why, but I guess it was because the incentive was there. Wages were higher in relation to benefits. Somewhere between then and now the benefits level has got ever higher and now there is too close a proximity between pay and benefits. In other words..if you are at the lower end of the pay scale the incentive doesnt exist. Minimum wage and benefits are probably roughly the same. So in all honesty why would those at the lower end of the pay scale work. Its hard ..working. You have to get up..wash, endure the miseries of commuting etc and thats before you even start.

    We need to find some system that encourages people to do it. NOT by reducing welfare though to soup kitchen levels but maybe by increasing wages, increasing apprenticeship availability, so that people see a light at the end of the early tunnel...in other words they see a road to increasing remuneration for the work they do over time.

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