howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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from the sunday telegraph.
The National Trust and the Campaign to Protect Rural England (CPRE) came under fire as they mobilised against new planning rules that they say put the Green Belt in peril.
The planning reforms are supposed to streamline complicated rules on new buildings, reducing 1,300 pages of national planning policy to just 52 pages. In a highly controversial change councils will be told there should be a "presumption for development".
Conservation groups say the reforms could allow un-checked development in the countryside and lead to parts of the Green Belt being concreted over.
For the first time in its history, the National Trust is to mobilise its 3.6 million members against the Coalition's proposals and urge every visitor to its sites to sign a petition opposing the framework.
The 60,000-member CPRE is preparing to take the attack directly to David Cameron, citing a speech he made to the group in 2008 in which he promised to "cherish" the "beauty of our landscape [and] the particular cultures and traditions that rural life sustains".
Keith Sansum1
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blimey to get such a large body as the national trust complaining and to lobby the cobbled together govt, means theres unrest in yet another quarter of the country.
its all falling apart David come home the country needs you
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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once again flashman says one thing to his audience then reneges once he gets his hands on power.
Keith Sansum1
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i think david will regret running away
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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For a quango like the NT to get together with a private pressure group to criticise government policy openly is remarkably like turkeys voting for Christmas.
I can foresee the NT being broken up and its properties transferred one by one to local people's control if they persist in this. There is an unwritten rule in the quango world that you don't bite the hand that feeds you.
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Keith Sansum1
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thats more like it peter
we cant go on agreeing lol

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Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Planning laws and protected areas, will always be broken or changed, as demand increases, and you can't go back.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there are two issues here, firstly the hypocricy of politician and more importantly the desecration of our countryside.
a quick look around any town or city will show that there are brownfield sites galore waiting to be built on.
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Absolutely, Howard, too many brownfield sites in some areas ! Trouble is, it's easier to build on a greenfield than clear a brownfield site. And cost is 'the most important' consideration.
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Keith Sansum1
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howard we should heed your words
but suspect they wont
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Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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I had a phone call from the CPRE a couple of days ago asking if I wanted to be a member as I seem to have sent them a contribution some time ago.
I said yes so I have now received an information pack and a membership card.
Reading the district report from Dover, it looks like they need all the help they can get. It starts off "We have over the past few months been engaged in trying to ensure our survival as a committee." Oh well, that's Dover for you!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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english heritage seem to be quiet on the issue, must affect them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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time for a rant, here we have the former post office in folkestone that has been empty for quite a few years now.
next door to the main bus station, opposite the main shopping area and a short walk from the stunning leas cliff area.
would make perfect luxury apartments or even affordable smaller flats.
instead we are told that our green belt will be built on in future.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Bit like Cambridge Terrace, would make nice flats like Camden Terrace, not sure what DHB are doing with them???
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i do not understand the logic with the properties in camden terrace, left empty too long they will go into a state of advanced decay.
every town and city in the country has this problem, nothing is done to force properties to be brought back into a habitable state.
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There should be a law that no viable property can be left empty for more than six months without a good reason.
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Keith Sansum1
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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people were paying money to the landlords in cambidge terrace and were turfed out.
the golden lion were paying rent to the owners until the owners got greedy and tried to up the rent.
if people can find the money buy up green field sites and build on them then they can afford to renovate their brown field properties.
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Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Precisely. Use up brownfield sites before launching into contrived, grandstanding, Soviet-style schemes like Whitfield New Town which put no value on the countryside.