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  I was not having a go Jan, I know you said "some"
  
  I always tell rugby players (those not bigger than me) that rugby players only play the game becouse they are not good enough to play with a proper shaped ball.
  
  Had to laugh a few weeks ago when youngsters were doing training at Dover Rugby Club after it had been raining for over 24 hours. They were covered in mud, head to toe, the kids loved it, but I am not sure about their mums who were taking them home after in the car.

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