I enjoy both games are you grouping all football fans as non civilised Jan if so its a bit out of order.
Each to there own when it comes to sport but you can enjoy more than one sport it is allowed you know.
On the Rugby it was good to see England get the Grand Slam but both Wales and France did make them earn it. Some good games over the last month with the best winning through.
Bit surprised Vic has not told us about back in the days when ********
