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    i think that blue barry is right about the telegraph, i have noticed that it seems to have a more independent stance nowadays, making it more palatable to the majority.

    at the same time "the independent" has recently had scathing attacks on the pm and chancellor, before they kept out of the party stuff, and certainly did not target individuals.

    to confuse people even further, todays "guardian" ranted on about a "foreign" doctor adminstering a lethal dose of pain killing drugs to a patient.

    not very pc of them.

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