Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#1
I remember some months ago my car was vandalised and I reported it for insurance reasons.
I knew and accepted that they would not catch anyone but the police kept making calls to make me think they were doing something. Then, most embarrassingly and completely pointlessly there were the calls from 'victim support'.... Understandable if I was an old lady who had been beaten of the head by a thug but I am big enough to cope with the trauma of my car being vandalised. All I would like to see in the vandal lying in the gutter bleeding but the police wont be able to arrange that for me....
Now I know I should report it, I know that it is important for their statistics and they use these stats to allocate resources. But I did not bother to report the two times my milk was stolen. I just let rip my annoyance on the forum to get it off my chest.
I simply could not face those calls from the police and victim support. As if I would cry over spilt milk
So today we hear that 'reported crime' is down....
How much of that is because people cant face the bother of all those calls and 'victim support'......
Thats one way to fiddle the figures and put people off reporting crime I suppose....
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#2
exactly barry, most minor crime is not reported hence the new figures out.
bob was offered victim support over a headlamp.
#3
i must admit i have gave up on reporting crimes ive had happen to me as never get satisfaction from the police.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#4
Always report a crime, always. Otherwise you'll all be letting the Police off the hook when they say that crime figures are down because, as Barry says, it simply means the true plight of our country is falsely reported.
True friends stab you in the front.
#5
me and my family have been let down by the police and law we have simply gave up .
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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#6
The incident I put on the forum some weeks back (Bottles and cans from Barton path) Not a dickie bird Have I heard.
I'll deal with it myself in future.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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#7
why not try your local robocop,and get them to patrol your area at pacif times,ie.when your milkman turns up etc.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#8
When that came on the TV last night, I said to Jean "that's nonsense, it's just that less people are recorded incidents, because the Police don't/can't respond quick enough and so they think it's a waste of time."
Having said that, all incidents should be recorded, whether there's a chance of catching the crims or not.
The more incidents are recorded, the more chance you'll have of police patrolling an area.
When we were burgled in January, we both thought the follow-up from the various agencies, including Victim Support, was excellant (we didn't need them of course, but we might have done).
The PCSOs won't be able to get the Police tactical units in your area, unless there is an increase in reported crime.
Better still, have a Neighbourhood-Watch set up.
The CSU (Community Safety Unit) team at DDC are there to help too.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#9
people only report minor crime nowadays if they need to claim on their insurance, if not then it is not worth all the hassle.
not just my view, but most people i know, also seems the opinion of forum members.
#10
It might help if police stations were open from time to time as well, instead of just 9-5 effectively.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#11
I agree with that most definitely Sid, but with the cuts that are coming, the opposite will probably be the case.
The trouble is that with less crimes being reported, it gives the Police the opportunity to say they are working better and having more successes, which is utter nonsense - it could, probably does, mean that people have just given up reporting crimes - as per Howard's post number 9.
They need to face reality and teh public need to report any crime - even Barry's milk going walkies.
It's more ammunition for Joe Public and we're the ones who matter.
Roger
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#12
According to reports the recent cuts will lead to a 60,000 cut in both civilian and coppers jobs in the Police Service.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#13
Christmas for the crims.
Roger
#14
Not so, frontline jobs will be the very last to go. We mustn't fall for this union/Dail Mirror style propaganda. THey know the ConDems are getting it right and are desperate to stir up trouble anyway they can.
Andy Burnham, who seems like a decent chap to me, was guilty of the same tactic on Question Time last week. Unluckily for him, Francis Maude was also on the show, who then proceeded to "remind" us all that if Labour had managed the economy, instead of mismanaging the economy, none of the things being done now would have been necessary.
It's bit like me kicking over your wheelie bin or black sacks of rubbish, and then coming along when you are cleaing it up and moaning about how you are doing it. Ergo, if labour hadn't create the mess, the ConDems wouldn't be clearing it up.
Ignore the constant stream of socialist propaganda.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#15
Sid
Even the Con/dems admit that at least 12500 frontline jobs will have to be sacrificed.The police Union thinks it will be higher.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#16
You are quite right Sid.
Marek, you will just have to wait and see. What is important is how the time of front-line officers is allocated. Cut out red tape and paperwork and you can get more policing out of fewer numbers.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
paperwork has been a bugbear for many years, this has to be cut immediately making for more visible policing.
it now needs to be seen whether pcso's will be considered frontline when the cuts are made.
