Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#1
Good to see the plans submitted for the repairs to the Marine Station - not usually very interesting to look at planning applications but there are some interesting old drawings in the docks
http://www.dover.gov.uk/planning/applications__decisions.aspx
DOV/11/01015
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#2
Notice that work has also started on the £10million project for the former marine station and walkway. Rather strange to walk through the left hand door and via temporary scaffold steps onto the walkway !
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
i must have missed something, what 10 million quid project?
i can vaguely remember talk of work being done to the "victorian" edifice.
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#4
I am sure there was news page somewhere, but the Harbour Board announced last year that they were spending £10 million repairing the roof to the marine station, repairs to the walkway to admiralty pier and also on the 'gatehouse' onto the pier by Lord Warden Hotel
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
Press release from DHB - they just need a history lesson as the buildings are not Victorian !!
Preserving Dover's Port Heritage
Plans to refurbish some of Dover port's iconic buildings are under way as part of Dover Harbour Board's project to preserve listed properties over the next 3-4 years.
Following the successful refurbishment of the Port's three lighthouses last year, attention has turned to other listed buildings including the impressive Grade II Cruise Terminal 1 (CT1) and the covered walkway on Admiralty Pier1.
The preliminary design stage for this £10 million project is underway and it is hoped that the detailed design will begin in autumn 2011.
The complete removal and replacement of CT1's steel and glass cathedral-style roof will be a major undertaking. The roof, although previously refurbished after war damage, has deteriorated along with the roof access walkways and protective barriers. A new permanent roof system will be designed to allow safe access for future maintenance and will also be sympathetic to the existing modifications and to the Listed Building requirements.
The new roof, formed of laminated glazing, will need to withstand impact damage from wave-thrown shingle from the adjacent Shakespeare Beach as well as the constant wave spray and even waves themselves on stormier days! Striking a balance between strengthening the structure while not impacting on the appearance will also be a challenge for the port's development team, but one they are determined to meet.
The remaining steelwork will be locally repaired and also repainted, removing the existing lead paint. Vertical cracks in masonry walls will be repaired and sealed to prevent cracking in the future.
Mike Krayenbrink, Director of Port Development said;
"Our heritage projects will protect these iconic structures for another century for the enjoyment of all who see and use them. It will enhance the appearance of Dover's Cruise Terminal in the Western Docks, with the works returning a grand Victorian building back to its former glory and contributing towards the regeneration of the Western Docks ahead of Terminal 2."
Issued by Port of Dover Corporate Communications on 01304 240400 (x 4410)
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Could this be in preparation of a new rail link to Western Docks, Paul?
Who would spend £10 million on repairing a train station unless they intended to use it at some point?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#7
NO !!
They are listed buildings that are well overdue maintenance work. The buildings are used as they house Cruise Terminal 1.....
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#8
Be nice to see it returned to it's former state rather than the dodgy roof air-bags !!
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Brian Dixon
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#9
paul,i would prefer to see it compleatly refurbished back to its original splender,railway tracks and asoiated buildings.
i hope the info i sent you and phil was ok.
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A trick was certainly missed by DHB - I am sure business could have been booming if people could arrive at their cruise ships via a steam train
(Not got a chance to pick it up yet Brian but thanks in advance)
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#11
More of emergency repairs than planned refurbishment!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#12
i suspect they will do no more than they are required to do, unless it will help the community port plan take a forward move.
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#13
Yes Martin as I said above - well overdue maintenance !!
Either way if it is going to protect the buildings for the future then good on them - who cares is there is an element of PR exercise !! As listed buildings they would have to go via planning and English Heritage so they will need to do what is required and done properly...
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#14
The rail tracks are actually still there, under the asphalt!
It was a condition that had to be kept in order for the building to become listed.
Paul, I doubt steam trains will be reintroduced, but perhaps electric trains.
A coal mine next door producing gas, that in turn is converted into electricity, could be a starter!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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alex,thats a big no to the coal mine,as previsuly posted by me that area for a coal mine is subject to flooding,thus making a non starter on economic grounds.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Brian, the coal mine doesn't need to be the one that flooded, it could be in Whitfield or elsewhere in Dover District. It would still be next door in terms of distance.
Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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As Scotchie says, DHB missed a trick by not leaving one track into the Marine Station to enable passengers to join their cruise ships by steam train. See my avatar. The postcard below shows the Dover Boat Train at Victoria in SECR days. Diesel haulage would be an acceptable if less glamorous alternative. Third rail electrification would be more of a problem as the line would need to be fenced off.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#18
Railway tracks are always better fenced off, Ed. It's safer.
Personally I see electric traction as the future for Britain's public transport, both trains and buses.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#19
I like the postcard view of the Victoria/Dover Boat train
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