Removals not working.
- Brian Dixon
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8 November 2013 06:26251653I see this report this morning,it might upset some viewers on here.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/immigration-50000-illegal-immigrant-tip-offs-2688379 - 8 November 2013 07:56251658This won't help either:
"The president of the European Roma Travellers Forum, Rudko Kawczynski, has sparked fury after warning that efforts to restrict welfare claims by Romanians and Bulgarians migrants will only lead to more law-breaking in the UK. Harrow Council leader Susan Hall said: "Councils are already hard-pressed to provide housing and enough school places with the numbers flooding into the capital. I've no problem with people who come to work and contribute but it is hugely unfair that law-abiding taxpayers should subsidise a carousel of career beggars from Eastern Europe."
This sounds like he is saying that unless we give them generous handouts, they'll commit crimes to get that money. Hardly a good advert for opening our doors next year.
Roger - 8 November 2013 09:01251660Roma forum seeks EU assurances
"Assuring civil rights and improving protection of Roma communities should form a stronger component of European Union accession conditions, according to the European Roma and Travellers Forum (ERTF).
That is the message the Forum's president Rudko Kawczynski will take into his Strasbourg meeting tomorrow with Vice-President of the European Commission Viviane Reding.
"We need to send a message to states that they have to ensure the values of the European Union," he said. "We want to see more cooperation between the EU and the Council of Europe on human rights and civil rights for Roma."
The forum wants EU post-accession monitoring to be strengthened to encourage governments to fulfill their obligation to protect Roma communities more effectively.
The ERTF will also ask for assurances from the commission vice-president about EU willingness to tackle 'Romaphobia' in member states."
More Information...
http://www.humanrightseurope.org/2011/04/roma-forum-seeks-eu-assurances/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 8 November 2013 09:36251664Shows you why you need to vote a different way,
The old Failure party's that have been in government,, labour and conservative just not up to the job - 8 November 2013 09:42251665"to vote a different way"
The old partys may not have been up to the job, but the new party matches them by also being stuck in reverse.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - Jan Higgins
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8 November 2013 09:43251666I think that the Harrow Council Leader has said clearly and simply what the vast majority of the British population would agree with regarding ALL immigrants regardless of where they come from.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 8 November 2013 09:44251667Roger Walkden wrote:This won't help either:
"The president of the European Roma Travellers Forum, Rudko Kawczynski, has sparked fury after warning that efforts to restrict welfare claims by Romanians and Bulgarians migrants will only lead to more law-breaking in the UK. Harrow Council leader Susan Hall said: "Councils are already hard-pressed to provide housing and enough school places with the numbers flooding into the capital. I've no problem with people who come to work and contribute but it is hugely unfair that law-abiding taxpayers should subsidise a carousel of career beggars from Eastern Europe."
This sounds like he is saying that unless we give them generous handouts, they'll commit crimes to get that money. Hardly a good advert for opening our doors next year.
Roger
Nothing short of blackmail from Kawczynski! we have thousands upon thousands who are in desperate situations without resorting to crime.Audere est facere. - 8 November 2013 10:03251669Tom is it not reverse we need ?
Back to the days when the British government could secure its boarders
And the British public could sack its law makers - 8 November 2013 10:20251671the house two doors from me houses young asylum seekers waiting to hear if they have been approved or not. they then get told that their application has been rejected which results in them "doing a runner". after a time the police come around asking the neighbours where they could have gone to!!
- 8 November 2013 10:21251672Well, no Roger it wont help, but then it was nobody's intention that it should. The report in the Mirror concerns the mismatch between reports from the public, about instances of questionable immigration, and action by the authorities. It is something of a leap to go from that to an undated, unattributed and context-free rant.
I have searched for mentions of 'Rudko Kawczynski' in recent news reports, the latest I have come across is from April this year witch centres upon 'Roma Day'...
"Four EU Commissioners issued a joint statement on the occasion of International Roma Day on 8 April: Vice-President Viviane Reding (Justice), László Andor (Employment, Social Affairs and Inclusion), Johannes Hahn (Regional Policy) and Androulla Vassiliou (Education, Culture, Multilingualism and Youth) stressed that further efforts are required from EU member states to improve the situation of Roma communities in Europe. While acknowledging the steps already taken, the Commissioners stated that much more progress is needed at national level to fight discrimination and improve Roma people's access to employment, education, housing and healthcare.
Commissioner Andor declared on his Twitter page that Roma inclusion should be seen as "not only a question of solidarity but also a key demographic and economic opportunity for the EU". Indeed, World Bank research has suggested that full Roma integration could bring around half a billion Euros a year to the economies of some countries, by improving productivity, reducing welfare bills and boosting tax receipts..."*
I think that the latter points made above may well be addressing the plight of the Roma people 'at home', in Romania and Bulgaria, and across mainland Europe.
Yet, the larger picture here seems to be that the discrimination, distrust and loathing experienced by Roma people 'at home' should not become the bow-wave of an imagined Roma invasion.
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http://eeas.europa.eu/delegations/council_europe/press_corner/focus/events/2013/20130408_en.htmIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - John Buckley
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8 November 2013 11:21251678"World Bank research has suggested that full Roma integration could bring around half a billion Euros a year to the economies of some countries, by improving productivity, reducing welfare bills and boosting tax receipts..."
Hahahahaha.......... yeah right! Actually, part of that statement is probably somewhat correct. More goods from the shops will be nicked ( or should I say "obtained" ) which will have to be replaced therefore increasing productivity. Our boys in blue in the Met. will no doubt require to be on more overtime than usual which, in turn, will give our goverment additional tax receipts!
I`m sure that the leader of Harrow council will feel a lot happier about the situation now if she manages to see that research document. She obviously has nothing to worry about does she?
So there you have it, another win win situation from our masters in Brussels. What would we do without them? - 8 November 2013 11:25251680I knew everything better than everybody else I too would qualify as a UKIP supporter.
None can be more certain that he who knows nothing at all.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - John Buckley
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8 November 2013 11:38251682That`s exactly why we don`t want you as a supporter Tom, we only want clever people that know everything!
- Brian Dixon
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8 November 2013 16:40251725john,same difference.those who know a lot know nothing at ground level. - 10 November 2013 07:32251904Ghettos warning
"Overcrowding due to mass immigration will put unsustainable pressure on the South-east and turn once glorious seaside towns into "third-world township ghettoes", according to Paul Carter, the leader of Kent County Council. He warned: "The pressure is growing in our coastal communities. We need government to give us help. We are getting a large concentration of vulnerable people of variable ethnicity creating a lot of pressures on public services of all different types."
The local authority is currently preparing a report which will call on the Government to demand a radical approach to the problem in towns such as Margate, where up to 3,000 Romas have set up homes in cheap, low-quality private housing or have been given council flats. Mr Carter also comments that he wants councils to be given the power to close down poor private-sector landlords who are exploiting the newcomers."
Sunday Express, Page: 6
Roger - Brian Dixon
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10 November 2013 09:39251917and this dosent help either,so what are the government and uk border force going to do about it.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/flagship-scheme-deport-foreign-criminals-2714239 - John Buckley
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10 November 2013 10:19251923In a word Brian.............NOTHING!