Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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17 December 2009
17:1135036#1
Just come on line and found this. Turkish kurd charged with honour killing. What the media should say is; TURKISH KURD FOUND GUILTY OF HONOUR MURDER. And again, NO MENTION OF THE WORD RELIGION!!! Why the hell not??? This is ENGLAND. Not some eastern country where they`re still running around in loin cloths, and never progressed beyond the prayer mat. The father murdered his 15 year old daughter 10 years ago for going away with a sunni muslim. Her body has never been found, but the police have evidence, she was buried in the father`s back garden for a time. When are these primitive beings going to be educated? Before commenting, just think about yourself having a 15 year old daughter, and murdering her because you`re a protestant, and her boyfreind`s a catholic, or vice versa. Hope someone inside has some piano wire!!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 December 2009
17:5335040#2
not really a religious thing colin, more a medieval thing.
more importantly, the matter of honour killing has been brought out in to the open, everyone knew it went on in britain, a blind eye has been turned.
the man was known to be violent, extremely unpleasant to his family and thoroughly disliked among his community.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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17 December 2009
18:1635045#3
..........just interested to know how a father binding his 15-year old daughter's legs to prevent her running away, then killing her in cold blood, could be construed as having anything to do with 'honour'.
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Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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17 December 2009
18:2435047#4
Sorry Howard, it`s religion through and through. And yes, it is a medieval thing, like their religion, and that`s where it belongs. Regardless of what this butcher is like, it is common among these people. A muslim, a few years back, jumping up and down on his daughter`s chest to drive out evil spirits. Religion and ignorance again. They are primitive, and should be doctrined into the British education system.
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17 December 2009
18:3835048#5
Culture and Religion are oftn muddled up together, but they are different. There are few, if any, religions or faiths that demand killing as a demonstration of fervour, but there are many cultures that indoctrinate their people with violence and intolerance. "Honour" killings (and I am with you Andy, what the pipe has Honour got to do with this kind of abomination?) and simply cultural dressed up as religious. This is done by people - people who want to have power and control.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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17 December 2009
20:0435056#6
Correct me if I`m wrong, but our god demanded Abraham to murder his son Isaac. It`s called a sacrifice, but like our kurd man above, it`s murder.
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Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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17 December 2009
22:0535075#7
it cannot be justified wheter its so called honour or religion
18 December 2009
08:2535100#8
I am not sure how we can confirm that God asked anyone to kill anyone - I am one of the school that thinks (and thinks is a good word to use) that the Bible may not be factual...........!!! Lovely, thought provoking and fascinating, and with signposts to a decent code for Life, but perhaps not credibly factual, please! It would appear that for many centuries people have done just waht I said in my last post and manipulated religion to their own ends. Keith - I don't think anyone was trying to justify it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 December 2009
19:1635145#9
couldn't agree more bern, about people picking and choosing bits out of every religious work to justify their own errant behaviour.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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18 December 2009
19:2135146#10
Agree very much with above Bern. Alot of people in the world don`t, or are not allowed to think. Thank goodness in this country we`re still allowed to. And, as you say, thought provoking and facinating. Always interesting to discuss.
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