Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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15 October 2009
16:4430529#1
Interesting reading Barryw, 25 years on. How much does religion play in all the troubles in this world, and how much are terrorists religious?
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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15 October 2009
17:3730550#2
I dont think it is about religion at all, culture more like, dressed up in religion.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 October 2009
18:1130557#3
i think some religions get picked on for the sins of the few nutters who tie in with them.
not dissimilr to footbll clubs in the seventies.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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15 October 2009
18:1630560#4
coming from a religious upbringing I crtainly have doubts on religion now
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 October 2009
18:1830562#5
not the question keith.
colin is looking for our views on the link between religion/terrorism.
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15 October 2009
18:2030564#6
HOWARD
It is the question,
some religions brain wash there people
which is where terrorism often comes in
so im on same wave legnth
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15 October 2009
18:5030572#7
Hi Howard. Interested in religious views as well, but no religious wars on here, we`re British.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 October 2009
19:0730575#8
keith
only a few individuals try to brainwash the disaffected and not very bright individuals that can be conned into committing crimes.
the average priest, vicar, imam, rabbi etc just teaches the doctrine of that faith.
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15 October 2009
19:1230576#9
When I was at primary school, morning assembly included 4 or 5 children just sitting out in the corridor. They were catholics. Don`t know what happens these days with the mixed pot we have.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 October 2009
19:2230577#10
in my scholl it was the jewish kids.
do they still have assembly?
seems rather irrelevant in todays society.
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15 October 2009
19:3130578#11
Agree strongly Howard. I`ve never had any interest in religion. I`ve always liked any history, and feel sure that if I didn`t have religion rammed down my throat in my school days, I`d be interested in reading about it now. Only as historical interest though, not as a believer.
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15 October 2009
22:2030583#12
If you took away religion you would probably find a massive reduction in the need for terrorism. What is a terrorist if not someone fighting in the name of a belief? Sure, it is often political but if you look closely you will often find religion mixed strongly in there too.
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15 October 2009
22:3530586#13
Rick
I think that you are mistaken in thinking that without religion being around there would be a massive reduction in terrorism and outbreaks of unrest.
Religion is merely used as an excuse to wage war in order for power mad politically motivated individuals to seize and exploit the natural resources of the land at the expense of the poor indigenous easily led population.
For many having or believing in a religion prevents them from going to war on moral grounds. However as religion ,in my opinion, will always be with us in one form or another I doubt that we will ever be able to put our different theories to the test.
Marek
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15 October 2009
22:5430589#14
Northern Ireland was not about religion. It was about intolerance (of people of a different religion).
Religion's fine. It's intolerance that causes hate, violence, and suffering.
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16 October 2009
07:5430608#15
HOWARD
Funny how you felt I missed the point yet all these posters took same line as me.
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16 October 2009
08:1130615#16
James mentioned Northern Ireland there so let me add a piece on that.
From an early age religion plays a part in Ireland. You cant escape it. If you are one side your furture is mapped out. If you are the other side your future is also mapped out but they use a different map entirely and never the twain shall meet. Me on the catholic side of the equasion(although Im from southern Ireland not north) had everything preplanned to a large degree with the priests and nuns having a huge say in your thoughts, your thinking, from an early age. The culture aligns itself to the religion, ceilidh music, traditional songs, writers, books, plays and so on, ...and because the protestant culture came from a different planet to us the indigenous types, they didnt have any of our heritage culturally.Not the same songs plays music books etc. They did everything differently and had no inclination to mix. This was how we viewed it. They themselves probably viewed it just the same from their side, although I have no experience of how they look at things but they look at them differently.
So religion certainly plays a part in shaping how you got to what you are. After that, how you deal with the injustices is up to you!
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16 October 2009
08:1430617#17
Paulb
have to agree with most of that post
but on top of this I feel people are a lot more informed and question things more including religion
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 October 2009
11:1430632#18
we will have to agree to differ keith.
post 14 from james sums up what i had been trying to get across.
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16 October 2009
12:2430636#19
HOWARD
And thats what the forum is all about, wouldnt it be a bore if we agreed all the time
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16 October 2009
13:5030646#20
Like lifeguard stations.
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