Dover.uk.com
If this post contains material that is offensive, inappropriate, illegal, or is a personal attack towards yourself, please report it using the form at the end of this page.

All reported posts will be reviewed by a moderator.
  • The post you are reporting:
     
    Bern, post 512 is not correct, I believe no-one on this thread has ever tried to do political attention seeking regards the Port of Dover, and the fact that various UKIP members - if this is who you refer to - are against the privatisation plans of Dover Port, does not justify your statement.

    Vic has written in the past on the Forum that he opposed the privatisation independently of his being a UKIP member, and I made my representation to London before joining UKIP.

    Neil, you have explained many things after the Town Hall meeting, that otherwise were not known to the members of this Forum and to the public in general, which is good of you to have done.
    However, this does prove the fact that the whole issue was very unclear before and during the Town Hall meeting, which your explanations since then have demonstrated.

    These issues are still largely unclear to the public in general.

    Also, some points you made are contradictory, as I pointed out to you previously, and adding to this, you seem not to grasp some essential points that I have made on this thread and the front page.
    I am referring the case to a higher authority, first of all because the reasons given for the referendum are not correct, and are misleading.

    The requirements of Constitution and Democracy do not leave space for P/p to call a referendum between the two options presented by them. P/p cannot just put words in the mouth of the Secretary of State for Transport and claim that the decision has been reached to sell Dover Port and Dover!!! oversees!, and that therefore the people of Dover should vote for the P/p plan to prevent this.

    Dover Harbour Board IS a trust created by royal charter, and your referendum, if it should have been called at all at this point, should have been for a vote whether the people want to have the royal charter abolished and the port and all DHB property transferred to the private P/p trust.

    Further more, as Vic pointed out, the P/p IS NOT Dover community, and has no legal authority to present itself as such!
    The Constitution regards the Port of Dover is the royal charter that created Dover Harbour Board, and Democracy requires that you do not put words in the mouths of Government ministers to scare people, and do not mislead people through wrong information.

    I have written many times here that the public consultation process is still on-going, and that there are no official statements on the part of the Government that the representations are being shoved aside. The Government cannot do this, as it has pledged to proceed with transparency and through public consultation.

    After a decision of the Government, or of the Secretary of State, you could ask for a referendum, ONLY when you know the official facts.

    The inside knowledge that Peter has recently claimed to know of from the Government can be harmful to the reputation of P/p, and for your own benefit I would advise you to discourage such argumentations, as they are very frustrating and, as a precedent, could lead to any misleading information being spread about in the name of a democratically elected Government! Such statements can be legally challenged!

    I have advised Chris on the Forum, as he is a Town Councillor, that DTC review the whole issue, and have given sufficient explanations.
    There is no way that P/p is going to bulldoze down Constituion and Democracy unhindered, and as I have already written to you on the Forum, I am part of the public consultation, and am awaiting word from the office of the Secretary of State of Transport concerning a decision, also in view of all the representati0ons that have been made.

    There is a long list of grievences against the conduct of the privately set-up people's port that I wish to make known to a competent office and have already made note of statements found on the P/p website and in local news-papers.

    I believe to have written very clearly my points here over the past week or so.

Report Post

 
end link