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    Keith, the 60 Tory MPs who are not following Camers on the issue of the EU referendum will also have heard the views of their constituents, of those who contacted them, for example taking advantage of the Pledge, which promised to bring the public opinion on an EU referendum to the attention of local MPs.

    When Barry talks of timig, he takes into account his determination to resist bankruptcy for many, many years, assuming that the EU will still be there for that long.

    However, many other people do not have the financial reserves to hold out for so long, to endure more and more suffering, and that just about explains at least half of it.

    Maybe you should consider, Keith, that many a Tory MP would lose their constituents' vote if they voted against the EU referendum on Monday, so by voting in favour, they are doing a sensible thing.

    If they followed Barry's advice, they would vote for their own electoral downfall.

    As I've already said, the Tory Party is about to split, Camers is done!

    We of UKIP do not believe in a barbaric continuing infliction of suffering on the People, mercilessly waiting for "the right time" while people cry out for an end to the mad policies of Labour and left wing Camers.

    We don't call day "night", or night "day".
    If Barry got his way, the whole Tory Party would collapse soon, but because a number of MPs are not cynically trying to impose more needless suffering on the People, they will vote for a referendum, and so-by retain their electorate.

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