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    Again I find myself agreeing with Barry

    If a referendum on leaving the EU is lost anytime soon we are tied in for a generation at minimum (same as the electoral reform one - we wont get another chance for 20 odd years)/

    What we need to do, whether we are pro or anti the EU is renegotiate the terms of our membership to protect our economy and interests whilst the anti's await much more benign conditions in which to stage a "get out" referendum.

    Whilst I am pro the intellectual concept of the EU, even I am concerned at the way the French and German political elite are pushing for greater integration and greater central control

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