A shame you did not listen to (or chose not to mention) the other interviews about Dover regarding the St James project where the frustration so many of us feel was voiced.
Here is the link about 25min in, the bus tour promotion is at about 1hr 37 and 1hr 54, the original interview is repeated at about 2hr 30 followed by the bus at Drop Redoubt which later continues to Langdon Cliffs at about 2hr 54
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01rn70z