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    I can agree with Howard on that too Peter.

    Quite right. Lots of suggestions for what should not be cut, suggestions for more spending - but little of nothing by way of sensible alternatives on the scale needed.

    We have, of course, seen the silly and inane. The deeply damaging, the totally inadequate. But not enough to even substitute for the cuts being made let alone the extra cuts we really need.

    I have made suggestions and my main target will be the welfare bill and we can start with rises to benefits being establish at half the inflation rates and a phasing out completely of all tax credits over a 5 year period. That will help but more are still needed.

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