howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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from the mail.
More immigrants settle permanently in Britain than any other country in Europe, a study revealed yesterday.
The latest figures showed that 397,900 foreigners decided to live here in 2009 - second in the world only to the U.S.
The figure marked a rise of 14 per cent from the previous year. It was the largest increase in the developed world, at a time when most countries saw dramatic falls in the number of permanent settlers.
Multi-cultural: Immigration to Britain is increasing, with 397,000 foreigners settling here in 2009
The study, from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, said the increase was largely down to family members coming to stay with those already in Britain, and the large number of foreign students living here.
Guest 683- Registered: 11 Feb 2009
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What The Mail (surprisingly) doesn't reveal is that immigration figures have been fairly consistent over the past decade but emigration has declined to skew the figures. Nor does it mention the benefits of immigration. The following go some way to address the journalistic bias which is so out of character for that newspaper.
OECD report 2011:
Migrants contribute to the economic growth of their host countries in many ways, bringing new skills and competencies with them and helping to reduce labour shortages. An aspect that has received only limited attention up to now is migrants' contribution to entrepreneurial activity and employment creation in their host countries. In OECD countries, entrepreneurship is slightly higher among immigrants than natives and the total number of persons employed in migrant businesses is substantial, although the survival rate of these businesses is often lower than that of their native counterparts. Migrant entrepreneurship has gone beyond traditional ethnic businesses, into a wide range of sectors and innovative areas.
Office of National Statistics 2011:
This increase in net migration is driven by a fall in emigration, which was 344,000 in the year to September 2010, a decrease of 20 per cent from its peak of 427,000 in the year ending December 2008. Over the same time period, immigration has remained steady at 586,000 in the year to September 2010, which is similar to 590,000 in the year ending December 2008.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the source is always a biased one, however outside of the health service the only people that benefit from immigration are the employers who can keep wages low by using them.
the people who suffer are those in poorer areas where extra strain is put on housing, schools, transport and the health service.
of course there are some entrepreneurial people but the vast majority are in low paid jobs therefore paying little or no tax, if businesses had to pay towards the costs of the dependants they may think twice about importing labour.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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The OECD report 2011 in post 2 is fascinating: it explains how immigration to the 13 colonies brought new entrepreneurial skills to the natives in the 1700s.
Otherwise we would still be living in wigwams and hunting bufalos. Fascinating!

Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Mark, here in Britain, we don't even produce clothes or shoes anymore, things we used to manufacture thousands of years ago! Reading your OECD report 2011, I thought it was referring to the Amazonas Indians.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Now I've had my coffee, I must go back to carry out some of my entrepreneurial skills, work's waiting!

Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Alex
I found 139 British clothes manufacturers and a large number of shoemakers.
http://www.britishcompanies.co.uk/footwear.htm
The above website deals with all things British. Suggest you check your facts before putting digit to keyboard.
Let's promote the UK not run it down. Remember this forum is read worldwide.
Cheers
Banter,Bums and Moans
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I don't think my facts stated above were far out, Marek!
When I went with my mum last year to DeBradleys where she was looking for a pair of shoes for herself, the salesman assured her that the British firm producing them guarantees the same quality, even though they were made in India.
And that at £55.00 a pair.
Regards Howard's comment, I think he is right. The businesses employing cheap labour from abroad would think twice if they had to contribute towards the exterior costs of immigration, such as dependents of workers.
Hopefully Ian Duncan Smith thinks something up.