Guest 739- Registered: 16 Jan 2012
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#1
Just a quickie to say the Priory Forum are having a meeting tomorrow (4th July) at the Malvern pub from 7pm. It's not a formal meeting but we need to discuss what to do with the rest of the grant and the proposed coffee morning.
I think we are all guinea pigs in the middle of an experiment for which they have forgotten to set up a control group!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
Any one who lives round the Priory area is welcome to come along; let us know your concerns and aspirations.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#3
is there any real point roger, the forum has been going for a decade and a half and we are back at the same point.
great efforts have been made by sheila, keith and of course yourself but council officers and police persons(some excepted) just seem to come along and pay lip service but no help is forthcoming.
still no one way system in the clarendons for example yet the money was in place at kcc a long time ago.
no disrespect intended towards the new breed like jen f that have come in more recently.
Guest 719- Registered: 11 Jul 2011
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#4
Yorkshire Born And Yorkshire Bred
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#5
Howard the money could still be in place, but another survey would have to be done now
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#6
If I remember, KCC said it would be too expensive to implement for the benefits perceived.
They would want to do their own survey too, which would cost quite a bit - yes I hear every one say, "we've already done that".
Another argument was, that if traffic was only one-way, it would encourage "boy-racers" (of any age) to drive along there too fast and with no play-area close by, children sometimes do play in the road.
I didn't realise the fact this hasn't come into being, was being laid at the feet of the Priory Forum and that's why local people don't come to meetings anymore - hardly fair when it was pushed as hard as it can be; KCC make the decision, we might make a recommendation for them to pick-up I grant you, but if their professional opinion is a NO, then there is very little we can do.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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#7
I think there are a number of observations here;
1; THE ONE WAY SYSTEM
This was discussed even in my time as a cllr, and no clear result as to whether
or not this should go ahead, some prnbably 15/20 years ago a plan was put
forward and probably would have gone a long way to solving some of the issues
but sadly when the public consultation part took place all the anti the proposals
turned up, so the scheme never got off the ground.
Of course ever seen there have been lots of discussions on differing schemes
including a one way system, but one of tho
many issues is the clarendons
is an area of where people move away, so those making decisions are not
there when the scheme happens.
So should there be a one way in clardon place/street?
well, no agency wants to be the one to inplement the scheme, because public
opinion is so divided.
As roger says its likely to be a race track should a one way come into being
as there would be nothing to stop them.
some locals are also confused over this proposaed one way thinking it will
also clear the roads of cars, it won't that is a completely different issue.
The clarendon and westbury community assoc recently discussed the one
way system and were not convinced it had big support for such a scheme
but would welcome a flood of letters/e mails to say otherwise.
The monies(purely for info) was put forward by DDC and would be long
gone now, but i'm sure with KCC could re open it all, but it might be better
to find out if locals actually want such a scheme.
As i'm no longer active and sadly working i cant attend the meeting so
would welcome thoughts on what the grant was for and put my view via
e mail if so wished
I hope that this helps debate on this matter
Keith
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Guest 739- Registered: 16 Jan 2012
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#8
I've just been sent an email from someone saying that she was told not to bother with the Priory Forum because of all the in-fighting and politics. Well as the PF is currently just a handful of likeminded people I don't think this is an accurate picture anymore. I appreciate that in the "old days" political lines were drawn and that there were battles but that was before I joined and so we need to move on.
We're holding this meeting tonight because there is some grant money left over from the alleyways clean up and it needs to be spent on something similar else we'll lose it. And also to discuss the proposed coffee morning which Ryan, our PCSO, has been gauging feeling for. He says that there is a willingness to get together socially but no one wants to make that first move. Maybe this can help start something positive. If it doesn't then at least we can say we tried.
We haven't been as "in your face" as we would have liked this year but that's because of personal issues getting in the way rather than apathy.
I think we are all guinea pigs in the middle of an experiment for which they have forgotten to set up a control group!
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#9
When a survey was done regarding a one way system, there was support for it, we took this to KCC they did agree on it, but would not fund it, the cost was at that time £18,000, our councillor was willing to fund it at the time, but unfortunately before this could be done, lost his seat, he now has regained that position, and as stated in my above post that a new survey would have to be done, for this to be brought to the table again, if there was enough support, I know we could approach for the funds again
Guest 739- Registered: 16 Jan 2012
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#10
If I remember I'll bring up the one-way question tonight. No one has mentioned it since I've been on board so it can't be the reason people don't come along but then again most of the people who came to the clean up last year were reasonably new to the area. You can but ask. Then if there's any interest we can think about what to do next.
If residents want to stop cars parking in their street then the Council need to think about parking restrictions like we have in Saxon Street, Norman Street etc. It's 2 hours parking allowed unless you have a parking permit. This has gone up to £50 a year and whilst it's good value at less than £1 a week it's still a lot of money to find in one go. So swings and roundabouts. The Clarendons weren't designed for the modern world and sorting it out will cost money and political will and I'm not really sure if it's the job of the PF to sort it.
I think we are all guinea pigs in the middle of an experiment for which they have forgotten to set up a control group!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#11
Well, thank you to those who did come to the meeting last night; a very useful meeting with some new faces, sadly some old ones were still not attending.
We now have about 3 or 4 different issues to work on, all to the benefit of the local community.
People grumble about this and that and why doesn't so and so do this instead of that etc. and when you're trying to get these things organised and sorted, you find that untrue stories/lies have been passed around like sweets and now stop people attending.
I don't know how we can stop this; I spend a lot of time supporting this area and trying to bring it up and don't get the support. Even if people wanted to have their say about the PF it would help us move on.
Support your local community, let us know what you think and what you want.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#12
i never found it to be political but there was a furore when the local reds paid for a newsletter.
i wish the new priory forum good luck in their endeavours, the alleyway clean up turned out to be worthwhile as both are still fairly clear of rubbish.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#13
Come and help our endeavours Howard - we're working on the next clean-up (amongst other things) and new letter for the residents.
Roger
