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    But this is my point about Brand and Ross (even though I was trying to provoke a response) I didn't find it offensive, but think the fact it causes offence makes it unacceptable. I personally don't find gollywogs or the word 'paki' offensive, but then they are not intended to offend me! In fact there is very little I do (except white dolls!) But the people do find these things upsetting and just because I don't, who am I to say "it's madness, irrational or stupid" At no point in this vast thread have I said Carol Thatcher or the Prince are racist, just that they weren't very responsible in their actions, careless!

    I don't believe in Catholicism, but I don't go around saying Catholics are wrong, stupid or over sensitive, I'm just not a Catholic. Maybe I don't understand what tolerance is!?

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