howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock
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BBC version here:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41142193
'the 700,000 square metre expanse of rolling chalk clifftops could be altered forever by developers'!
A touch of Project Fear here methinks. The chance of nameless 'developers' getting planning permission to build anything must be close to zero, even from DDC, who seem to be intent on despoiling local farmland with suburban sprawl to accommodate those fleeing the extra third of a million immigrants we seem to be intent on welcoming to the UK each year.
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Weird Granny Slater
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This is the area to the North West of the South Foreland lighthouse, site of the WW2 Wanstone Battery, two 15" guns known as 'Jane' and 'Clem':
That pic is from this site, where you'll find more pics and info:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.896292047063539.1073741903.269223069770443&type=3
Donations:
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:BBC version here:-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41142193
'the 700,000 square metre expanse of rolling chalk clifftops could be altered forever by developers'!
A touch of Project Fear here methinks. The chance of nameless 'developers' getting planning permission to build anything must be close to zero, even from DDC, who seem to be intent on despoiling local farmland with suburban sprawl to accommodate those fleeing the extra third of a million immigrants we seem to be intent on welcoming to the UK each year.
My thoughts exactly Bob it has all the hallmarks of a general fundraising project and a good one at that. All the ingredients are there with a headline million quid in 3 weeks coupled with "belongs to the nation" then wheel out Dame Vera Lynn to mutter something about "our brave boys". The money will pour in to the coffers of the National Trust.
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Captain Haddock
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On the plus side my carer and I visited the Fan Bay Tunnels last week which are worth a gawp if you are a NT member.
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/the-white-cliffs-of-dover/features/visiting-fan-bay-deep-shelter
+ NT are working on getting the staircase down Langdon Cliffs back in use (it's all rather complicated as 'footpaths' are supposedly KCC responsibility)
It's a great shame that a lot of the WW2 stuff was either demolished or, as in the case of the tunnels, actually filled in by KCC with rubble a few decades ago when the government were actually giving out grants for such wanton destruction of our heritage.
Much the same idiocy went on over the mines closing. The 'interesting' stuff such as winding machinery and pit-head baths at Betteshanger etc was demolished with an unseemly haste, which is why the super-duper new Mining Heritage (sic) Centre will have nothing to display other than half a dozen miners lamps and some tubes of pneumoconiosis contaminated sputum.
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Guest 1395- Registered: 5 Nov 2014
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Putting it as 700,000 square metres makes it sound huge, whereas 0.7 sq km doesn't have quite the same ring! About the same area as Tescos car park at a rough guess.
Lew Finnis
Chris- Forum Admin
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I think you may have greatly overestimated the size of Tesco car park!
Edit: To try and make my reply a little more useful, I believe the area in question is around 40 or 50 times the size of the car park.
Captain Haddock
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Lew Finnis wrote: About the same area as Tescos car park at a rough guess.
And with exactly the same number of electric-car charging stations.

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Guest 1395- Registered: 5 Nov 2014
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I did say it was a very rough guess - trying unsuccessfully to do some quick mental arithmetic! Having done a more accurate check (good old Google Earth!), the Tesco car park is around 10500 sqm - so around 65 Tesco car parks! I blame after-lunch doziness......
Lew Finnis
Bob Whysman
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Lew Finnis wrote:I did say it was a very rough guess - trying unsuccessfully to do some quick mental arithmetic! Having done a more accurate check (good old Google Earth!), the Tesco car park is around 10500 sqm - so around 65 Tesco car parks! I blame after-lunch doziness......
Is there enough footfall in Dover to support a complex of 65 Tesco's?
Oh well, food for thought I suppose.

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Weird Granny Slater
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Jan Higgins
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Not exactly a surprise as I suspect the money was already in their nice full coffers and the contracts were just waiting to be signed and exchanged.
This was nothing more than a publicity stunt that was simply to raise more money and increase their profile.
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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Shame they are not interested in the other end of Dover White cliffs and Shakespeare Cliff. Oh I forgot that is not Whitfield or St Margret's. The West part of town an area of outstanding national beauty has already been ruined by the notorious lorry park called the A20..
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Weird Granny Slater
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One of the Wanstone fields. Some planted with wild flowers and grasses and others with flowers and cereals. No grazing yet, but fences and access gates put up. Looks like rapeseed to me.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus