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    HOWARD;
    Don't agree with you fully, conferences these days are all much the same, serve little purpose.

    Kinnock realy did take it on, but you have remember this was after a very long time of the militant party who still refuse to admit they were a party within a party, kinnock was brave to take it on.

    When I joined the party my local branch was outnumbered by members of the militant party.

    At that time 25 or more years ago they were well organised, but totally undemocratic.

    I found it very frustrating in my early years, and I did wonder what I had joined.

    Thankfully those dreary days have long gone

    And yes, kinnock helped to make that come about

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