howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
whilst posting here i had the tv on in the background, the above was on.
the usual embarrassing jibes at each other, whist giggling like schoolboys and girls.
the speaker repeatedly told the errant mob that people were watching and would not be impressed.
these are the people we elect, they continously tell us how responsible we are supposed to be.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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#2
I remember all this back in the 80s and 90s Howard, and always found it very embarrasing. Strangely enough, with all the Northern Ireland trouble`s at the time, I use to think, what must the one`s who hate the British so much, make of this lot who they`re fighting against? Imagine the European parliament behaving like it on live TV! (or do/have they ever done so?).
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
#3
Saw it too; William Hague slaughtered the "one answer" stand-in for Gordie. Blimey, even Vince Cable looked impressive against the Harman.
Still, if our MP's are seen behaving this way maybe it will lead to a good clearout at the GE. We live in hope.
#4
PS
RIP Michael Foot
A great activist, terrible party leader and orator par excellence.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#5
Its clearly an 'end of term' atmosphere....
Harman was appalling and had to be reminded that it is for the Government to answer questions and not to ask them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#6
harriet harman is always appalling, the rest of the shower were even worse.
a good speaker like william hague was one of the worst.
there is no excuse, they do not realise what they look like, i doubt if they know any real people to ask their opinion anyway.
#7
Howard, you're just being deliberately too 'red' to see what actually happened. Substance triumphed over stupidity and political briefing. That much was obvious to all who watched.
How many times did the Speaker have to remind Harman that she must ANSWER questions, not ask them. She's been in the House and on the Front Bench long enough to know, so she was showing to the world just how stupid she is (not difficult).
She also got Hagues position in the Shadow Cabinet wrong at least twice, calling him the Foreign Secretary when she must surely know that one of the Rubberband Brothers, oops sorry, Milliband brothers holds that rank within her own party!
Finally, to almost every question she took on behalf of Gordie she replied with a question about Ashcroft, as if the public are even the slightest bit interested in him over the state of the economy. So, she obviously had a brieifing set really tight to hopefully avoid her demonstrating her stupidity. Well, her delivery undid the briefing thereby showing not only how bad she is, but how stupid Labour were to put her out in front.
She also fielded one question about provision of cancer medication for an MP's constituent, not availalble on the NHS in some parts of the country, and answered about NICE and what a, nice job, they are doing.
What is the point of PM's questions if there are to be no answers?
One might ask why Gordie has failed to attend over twice as many PMQ's as Bliar, 12% missed already, compared to Bliars 5% (which is a reasonable defalut rate for a PM).
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#8
Brown is running scared at PMQs and tries to get away and play his favourite game of McCavity whenever he can dig up an excuse.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#9
I question the relevance of PMQs anyway, Sid. What's the point in asking a question that has to be submitted some time before the actual day, so that the appropriate Ministry has time to prepare a written answer/brief, plus answers for any supplementary questions that may stem from the original? Surely the whole point is to put the PM on the spot to get an answer from the horse's mouth, so to speak. In my days with the FCO, written PMQs were almost exactly the same wording as letters sent out to members of the public who had written to their MP about the topic I specialised in, as well as letters to the PM herself, and journalists who had written asking Government policy on the subject. (Pre Google days!)
PMQs is more about the performance given by the PM and Leader of The Opposition in front of their own ranks than anything about the openness of Parliament. It's an act, pure and simple.
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#10
sid
i did say that i could only hear it in the background, i have no idea of the full debate.
i recognised the voices of the usual suspects.
my original point was that there is no difference between the commons and the audience and participants on the jeremy kyle show.
well ok, one difference, the former wear smarter clothes and bleed the taxpayer more heavily.
#11
The problem with Harman is that I can no loner watch her without Rod Liddle's question taking over my thoughts.
Would I? I'm still not sure...................
#12
Bob, I've been away, what was the question?
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#13
"So - Harriet Harman, then. Would you? I mean after a few beers obviously, not while you were sober." Liddle went on to imagine going back to Harriet's place.
Hope that helps.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
#14
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone should/could have warned me!! That's just put me right off my ..... erm, would we be allowed to take a bag?
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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#15
now now boys, put your woggles away this is a growed up forum.
Sid behave or Howie will tell you off.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
#16
So, is that a "yes" then Ian? Hmmm (thinks bubble) "maybe a couple of bags might be better, "decisions, decisions..."
#17
Just goes to confirm what we already know: men think with their blood, women with their brains.
#18
But only once they've stopped thinking about shoes, hair and make-up Bern. Of course, in Harman's case she is constantly preoccupied trying to find the ugly stick.
#19
Just as well we can multi-task then Sid.............