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    I don't think much of any politician, alive or dead, with one or two exceptions, and he isn't one of them. Sorry Howard, I was mainly addressing Keith, should have made it a bit clearer.
    I would hate to think anyone would think I've been offended, far from it, I don't take anything on here personally, just as I don't try to make personal attacks, apologies if anyone thinks I have. It has already been said that its about the debate, and my original point was to make a debate of the truth behind the original post.

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