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    Howard, post #168 - A valid viewpoint, you think, from Jimmy and I paste direct '""""For the record I view your utterances as lies, lies, and more lies, but what else would one expect from a tory, how sad is that.""""

    Vic - do you really think that is a valid or relevant point to make to the Port discussion or that is in any way a constructive point.

    Alexander - you are just running true to form.

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