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    Vic, it's not about agreeing or disagreeing with anyone's views. It's a coming together of differing views which can't possibly be a solution to all events but are useful in some circumstances.

    I think that this thread, started for the right reasons, has served as a means of getting the 'grey matter' active just as events in the South West has done for the 'experts.'

    Healthy discussion is always useful, rarely moves mountains immediately but can sometimes provide the foundations for progress to address the problem.

    Lesley, now I know where the expression 'dam knickers' comes from!

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