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  I direct your attention to the word "attempts". There is, Mark, evidence to the contrary of what David says, and I can give anecdotal evidence ditto. Of course there are failures, many of them. Sadly they hit the headlines unlike the quietly successful non-offending ex-offenders. Prison serves a good purpose, and there is a real place for punishment in this equation, but it is such a fragment of the picture. I repeat: there is a real challenge involved, but it is crucial to plan for and support people through post-sentence life. If what you really want is to reduce crime, you need to think differently. If you are content to support and contribute to the rise in crime and merely imprison people when they inevitably re-offend, carry on. But don't claim that you want to reduce crime if that's the case.

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