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    For all those forumites pontificating about prisons just how many of you have ever visited or examined living conditions in any of Englands prisons?.

    I spent 3 years working for the Prison Dept in the North Regional office and during that time visited many prisons,remand centres,borstals and even had the misfortune of visiting Myra Hindley in Styal womens prison. There are very few 'cushy' prisons as you call them and the reason they are perceived as not being a deterrent is because most offenders once they have a prison record have little or no chance of obtaining employment so thieving and crime is their only (as they see it ) option.

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