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  what concerns me more paulb is the affect this has on politics itself, already people are moving away from the ballot box and this just increases this move.
  
  the knock on affect is local politics where many hard working cllrs get hit by whats happening on the national scene.
  
  just take the case in liverpool and sheffield where the lib dems had built a firm base in both councils, at some points even running the councils, at the local elections they were wiped out.
  some very bitter lib dems after the event all that hard work to build the foundations all lost in a night

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