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  I do try to keep out of these threads as I know it will only give me grief but Tom is right, just how stupid do you think we are?
  BarryW
  We all know you want to drop the minimum wage and strip a lot of working rights from employees that have been built up over the years, some of which I can understand and believe there is a middle ground.
  But, your formula is to strip it right down and build it up again, purely for the employer's benefit, which is what this is all about.
  
  I completely agree that the current Tax system needs a complete overhaul but bringing in more loopholes is not the answer.
  
  Posting what this idiot MP is trying on, just confirms that, although I am sure you will disagree.
  
  When someone is struggling to make ends meet and has a family to consider, offering this carrot is not giving them an option.
  To keep emphasising the word "option" or "opt in and out" is just a "red herring" to strip down "employment protection & rights"

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