Totally agree with you both
We were sitting in the car above the beach (not in Dover) recently A guy was walking on the beach with a large dog. The dog crapped, the guy picked it up in a bag, tied the top up and ............................................................ chucked it in the seas!!!!!!
What's that all about then????????
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".