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    Oh dear, I am going to sidle in as well now, although I think I will regret it. Sid and I don't always agree, especially about relidge, but I am with you on this one Sid. Whatever you believeor think aout Jesus the man, he did live and he was, given the proper evidence, at least a remarkable moral philosopher regardless of alll the other stuff. And I too think he might be depressed to see what rigid and unnecessary confines people have placed on his conversations. if we have to worship (whatever that means) it really is wherever and whenever - that old (mis)quoted "wherever 2 people gather in my name....etc" is valid and doesn't need a pile of bricks to make it so. However, the churches mentioned are beautiful!!

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