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    Post number 4.... "I would suggest looking at serious news organisations or sources though, not left wing rags like the Grauniad or Mirror, or indeed their opposites on the right."

    You mean conservativehome eh? That bastion of received wisdom much beloved by the tory lobby fodder.
    Or perhaps the Daily Mail? The Independent? Can you tell us all what you mean by "their opposites on the right"?
    I was under the impression you were a right wing tory Barry.

    I think your'll find that where this is all heading is some kind of pan-european defence force. Funny that eh? Pushed forward by a conservative government. But, but, but I was told that Cameron was a eurosceptic. Oh hang on, we can blame it on the coalition.

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