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    So Barryw lets get into this a little,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    I dont have any prejudice, i only want to see whats fair,

    to take up some more of your points,,,,


    For some time on here i have been saying the benefits system is flawed and we need to look at it, its to easy to just pick up the dole.(or whatever the term is these days)
    and you hear it
    just recently a young girl on the bus was talking to another girl about how she was preggers, never worked nor does her partner nor will they(and she proud of it that the state will keep them)
    she spoke of the baby on the way and her guarentee of a council house
    so that needs to change.

    The benefit system should be for people in need, not an expectant.

    We can all im sure quote instances of people who have no intention of working ever, but expect the state handout
    that shouldnt be.


    Of course the concerns are around those caught up in all this, the people that cannot work through medical grounds or other,
    sadly we have seen by garyc post of those that get hit

    I do believe in those rich taking a hit, and not always going for the poorest in society.

    I dont think any one disagrees that we need to get the debt down(thank gawd we are not like the USA where things are at a standstill because the 2 parties won't agree but play political games)
    its how fast you do it.

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