Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
14:5389905#1
After the recent KCC election in Dover we heard things like well it was an old Labour seat,well my good friend Cllr Mike Eddy has just sent me the KCC results for a by-election in Tonbridge,which has always been Tory since the Year dot,I know Tonbrige quite well as my Dad lives there.
The results are quite amazing but not if you are Tory,LD,UKIP or Green,this was a election of 1 seat against the area's 2 seats in 2009.
2009 results 37.35% 2011 result 23.%
Con 4786/4222 Con 3229 -1000
LD 1583/1496 Lab 1216 +400
UKIP 1278/1088 LD 561 -400
Green 1032/846 Green 366 -600
Lab 944/760 UKIP 337 -800
English Democrat 475
The + and - are taken as an average of the 2 votes in 2009,what is worth looking at is this all parties lost votes except Lab and the Tory Lab and LD vote is much in line with Dover,the real shock is UKIP from third to last does it mean that UKIP is on the way out.
This result taken with a low turn out which will happen is expected 8 months after a Tory Goverment what will happen in 2013 when KCC go to the polls again,could the County start to go back to Red,and with DDC electons due in just over 3 months it is not a good time to be a Blue,Lib Dem or a UKIP person.
Quite an amazing result now wait for Barry and Vic to squirm and tell us the reasons why!
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
15:1189906#2
That was in 2009 just wait till 2013 UIKP in the real world ukip did not take up the fight for county and the locals till last year 2010,In 2009 the UKIP was only a paper Candidate,we have funding now coming in from HQ,SO AGAIN JUST WAIT AND SEE.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
15:1489907#3
Perhaps you should save your funding Vic,you lost 800 votes in 2 years in one Town with it.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
15:2589909#4
I have only had funding once and that was at the last BY Election I was standing in all 3seats as you know we had only 5500 leaflets to do the lot with,and as you know we pushed Leb/dem down to last place and stoped the blues geting the county seat and let you have it,you should be thanking us for doing that, the reds would have not had that seat if it was not for my 400+votes
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22 January 2011
16:1489913#5
i am still trying to decipher those figures from john.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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22 January 2011
17:1489916#6
John, there is no way I can figure out the numbers - and therefore the results - you put there!
It seems that the turnout was 23% this time, compared to 37% last time, if I read your figures rightly.
This would suggest a continuation in the trend of apathy towards elections, both local and for Parliament, which we have been witnessing in Britain lately, starting with the local December elections in Dover.
Such low turnout numbers do not do credit to any of the participating parties, who either cannot or will not (even try) convincing the people to vote for them, and thus between them do not manage to get a majority of the electorate to turn out to cast a vote.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
17:3889919#7
Alexander by elections always have low turn outs especially a few months after a General Election,same as in Dover,smaller Parties normally do well because thier supports tend to be more hardcore,the ones who tend not to vote are the floating voters that is why any increase in a vote has to be good news on a much lower turn out,while the main parties you normally see a core vote.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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22 January 2011
19:1189923#8
John, in Tonbridge last Thursday the Conservatives gave Labour a sound thrashing! They got a very comfortable first place with between two and three times as many votes as Labour.
As you mentioned in post 1 all the contending parties, my personal view is that at present, in the County Elections in May, the Conservatives currently stand the best chances, owing to Kent County Council's local policy proposals, which they are also presenting to the Government.
I don't see any other parties campaigning or lobbying along these lines, at least not locally, and by not doing so they have missed the train!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
19:5289929#9
It is not the county Elections in May they are in 2013 it is district and town and parish in May only.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
22:0289935#10
Is this what John is talking about?
Tonbridge ward, Kent County Council
Con - 57% (+10)
Lab - 22% (+13)
LD - 9% (-7)
Green - 6% (-4)
UKIP - 6% (-6)
Con hold
Blimey if he and Labour can get so excited over that they must be desperate....
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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22 January 2011
22:3689937#11
I must agree with you Barry and that is a first
Keith Sansum1
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23 January 2011
00:4289943#12
barryw
i have to agree with you on this one
im baffled why mike eddy or john wanted to produce that
weird
votes may be down but labour didnt get anywhere near
rather a strange posting
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 January 2011
02:2889946#13
