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    Bern

    You put it far better than I could..Keith said it's a defeatist attitude...I suppose it is but it's much much more. It's about being brought up to be polite but only having it thrown back in one's face.
    It's about being derided for one's religious beliefs.
    It's about caring for others as society seems hell bent on becoming more insular.
    Where caring for the elderley is measured in a profit and loss account and not in their quality of life.
    Where having kids are seen as a passport to council housing and a life on benefits.
    Where further education is to become available only to a privileged few with parents able to afford or willing to go into debt to pay for it.
    Where drugs are used by the rich as a social past time and by the poor as a means of escapism.

    So we do what we can for ourselves and others but until there is real shift in what we want and get from politicians with real vision for the future it appears thats all we can do. Bear the above in mind when this week a British scientist said that the kids of today could live to be a 160 years old and that by the end of the century with advances in cell stem research etc there are no valid reasons why humans will not be able to reach a 1000 years old.

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