Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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5 November 2010
16:4178650Just seen the news coming through that Nigel Farage has resecured his old position...Leader of UKIP. He is by far and away UKIPs most familiar face. When he stood down before the last election to take on The Speaker, John Bercow, in that election.... he had by then put UKIP on the map somewhat, through his high profile TV career, although their overall voting figure only went up overall by 1% I believe.
However he failed in his bid for a seat in the House of Commons as Bercow saw him off. You will remember his plane crash Im sure. His election banner got stuck in the rudder and himself and pilot came thudding to earth in a blaze of publicity.
The previous Leader Lord Whatsisname (gosh cant remember for the moment) was awful as Leader. He acknowledged this himself. He bumbled his way through the general election in the worst nightmare scenario possible for UKIP.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
16:5178651it was lord pearson, affable enough bloke, he admitted that he was not cut out for the party political point scoring game.
Brian Dixon
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5 November 2010
16:5278652thank you paul,i have just been reading about it on my home page.i liked the bit about d.cameron and his surender policy to the eu.brings to mind the phrase surrener monkey.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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5 November 2010
16:5878655Ah thats the very chap Howard.. Lord Pearson of Rannoch. A very amiable fellow but more suited perhaps to a spot of salmon fishing or grouse shooting or whatever those countrified chaps do, more suited to that than to the cut and trust of the TV election studio.
Farage is a much more slick operator, very polished on TV and so on... but not averse to the odd outrageous clanger...remembered and notoriously known for his stupefying outburst on Belgium last year in some sort of bizarre attempt to discredit the EU. Shot and foot leaps to mind...
However if UKIP are ever to amount to anything other than a one note samba ( anti EU) Farage might be the man to do it.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 November 2010
17:5078663Well at this time as the chairman of UKIP in Dover,I will wait till I have more news from headoffice. Paul I do not agree what you said about Lord Pearson.He does alot of good work for the party and he talks well on a one to one.
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5 November 2010
17:5778665Agree with you Vic, Lord Rannoch was a very good Conservative supporter until his split over Europe.
Pleasant guy.
Watty
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 November 2010
18:0378667Thank you Paul for your support about him,I get on well with him,and i am trying to get him to come back to Dover in the new year.I have not said this before now ,but Mr Farage has already said he will come to Dover for apublic meeting to help us with the locals next year.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
18:2778669vic
lord pearson came across a a nice bloke, not a political leader.
nigel farage will raise the profile of your party immeasurably, just watch him launch into dave in the next few weeks.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 November 2010
18:3378673Yes you are right,I did see you talking to him when he was in Dover and thank you for doing that he also told me he likes talking to the public on a one to one and also he felt that he was not worthy of the welcome he got in Dover with all the press etc who was waiting to meet him.
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5 November 2010
18:4078678Vic
no he was not worthy lol
Nigel knows how to court the media, where as Pearson nice chap that he may be and admits hes not up to the poltical stuff(why did he put up for leader?)
Being honest i see no break through in Dover
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Guest 673- Registered: 16 Jun 2008
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5 November 2010
18:5378682Hugely enjoyed the way Lord Pearson dealt with Jon Sopel on The Campaign Show in what has been described as the worst ever campaign interview. Sopel chose to press him on questions of the utmost banality such as his thoughts on an insignificant item in the UKIP manifesto regarding the possible use of retired police officers as wardens on housing estates. Lord Pearson made no bones about the fact that he knew nothing whatsoever about this trifle and pointed out in his patrician manner that he was there to deal with the great pressing matters of the day in a nation on the brink of bankruptcy. Sopel was reduced to squeaking falsetto expressions of disbelief that the answers to his selected trivia were not forthcoming. Lovely stuff.
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5 November 2010
18:5678683It was about time Nigel Farage got back to the Home Front!
My view is that UKIP represents the original ideals of Labour once upon a time, with some Conservative common sense too. I could immagine a future agreement of sorts between UKIP and the Conservative Party, and many disillusioned labour supporters studying UKIP's proposals and manifesto.
If Nigel Farage also makes a Flagship theme of Swiss-style Democracy, which is part of UKIP's proposals, then he should do very well! It was the decisive argument that led me to join UKIP, the commitment to Democracy national and local.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
23:4378729i remember lord pearson coming to dover back in the spring.
i thrust my hand out and said "delighted to meet you", he then came back with "can't think with why dear boy".
i then stood upright ( my knees were sore by this stage) and said "will you be going to posh barry's drum", he sneeringly replied "do me a favour last time i went there he poured milk into the earl grey".
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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6 November 2010
07:5878738Ed I saw that interview LIVE as it happened. Lord Pearson had followed on from a number of other top guys from the main parties as I remember, who of course are all generally polished and fairly slick, but he was the opposite and I suppose one could say a revelation of sorts. He bumbled his way through in the most amazing and bewildered out to lunch landed gentry style ever seen from a party leader.
It was that one interview above all others that convinced him he needed to quit as once the debate ventured outside the realm of..."we give 48million everyday to the EU, now if we keep hold of that money all our problems will be solved" ... he was lost in the stratosphere.
As I said though he seems a very nice chap, a posh chap who wouldnt dream of cascading milk into his Earl Grey...but I guess its all about horses for courses in life, and party politics wasnt for him.
Nigel Farage on the other hand has much more of the barrow boy about him and can rabbit rabbit for all he's worth. What spews forth though isnt quite everyone's cup of Earl Grey!
6 November 2010
08:0178739I am still waiting to hear the aviation authority report on the crash and who is getting prosecuted for flying without a towing license! what an idiot!!!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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6 November 2010
08:0778741i wish he would engage his brain before he opens his mouth.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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6 November 2010
09:2878747I think the last two were well out of order ,but no more then what I would expect from the both of them.
Anyway moving on again our new Leader on the BBC news again this morning and was "What is in the NEWS LAST NIGHT" BOTH TIMES HE WAS TALKING VERY WELL AND THE ABOUT THE HOPES OF US ALL IN THE UKIP party.