Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#1
Prime Ministers Questions is now beginning to get into its newly formed stride. So far its been a tepid affair but what has struck people most and especially the millions who voted Libdem, is that Nick Clegg, the one time new white hope of youth and politics, has been reduced in stature to a David Cameron straight man. He nods and laughs at all his leaders jokes and quips....and sadly now, that is his only role. He isnt allowed to speak. Bizarre bananas.
Speculation is growing now that this new coalition arrangement will finish them off, finish the Libdems off as any kind of force. They have now in effect two parties in the Commons, one part of the party led by Nick Clegg which has been absorbed by the Tories, and the other part appearing to be led by Simon Hughes. BarryW himself speculated on here that Labour were dead and finished in politics..and that the new Libdems will emerge as the real alternative, the real opposition...but no, not so. This situation is very unsatisfactory for fans of Nick Clegg, who for a while there was the darling of the voting nation, but this short lived Clegg exuberance is now as flat as last weeks beer.
Labour on the other hand are far from dead. The Libdems may be in government, sort of, but they are in disarray as a party and as a party unit in Westminster. When Labour eventually get their new leader in place, which will be David Milliband, they will be back on track as a real force.
In the meantime here is a picture of Labour's interim Leader and woman's champion..Harriet Harman, who looked very attractive yesterday, but that could be because Im not getting out enough...
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#2
You are definately not getting out enough PaulB.
The Cleggy will have his own Question Time as Deputy PM.
#3
Why isn't Harriet standing for the leadership. She's got more Eds than any of the other candidates?
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#4
SID;
Nice you are interested in who will lead the Labour party in the future, but back on the post.
I honestly think the Lib Dems have blown all credibility going the route they went, and this will show once the cobbled together Govt falls apart.
For the leading lights of the Lib Dems I'm sure they feel it great to get close to number 10.
But in reality just watching you can see CLEGG is an also ran, in the background
shadowing but very much having no speaking part in most of whats going on.
But yes PAULB
Labour will reform and the Lib dems supporters wont forget how they were let down by there own leadership, many have joined Labour!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#5
Keef
Not too sure what the election of Simon Hughes as Deputy Lib/Dem leader will have on the party.He appears to be slightly at odds with Clegg.Methinks that Hughes is waiting on the sidelines until the Con/Dem pact crumbles and he will step in as the new Lib/Dem leader advocating a return to their old party values.Should be interesting to see how this one develops.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
#6
Dream on guys, no such things will happen.
I'm not really interested Keith, more curious as to why an outstanding candidate isn't going for election. Is there a hint of sexual discrimination in the upper echelons of the Labour Party perhaps? Maybe the mannequins of Transport House don't view females kindly, whilst paying public lip service to the Blair Babes?
I think Harriet would make a fine leader of the Labour Party. She at least has some firm belief's of her own which is more than can be said of the Millipede Brothers.
Finally, and to giver her credit where it is due, she did look well turned out the other day.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#7
Harriet is as good as any of the candidates, but its her choice if she wants to stand, but there is a varied lot already, and i'm looking forward to seeing the labour party become strong again.
on Nick Clegg you only have to talk to local/National lib dems to hear them so upset with N Clegg.
I honestly think N Clegg will live to regret going in with the cobbled together govt
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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#8
Having met Harriet in Dover a few years ago I have alot of time for her,she even played a joke on one of my workmates,and I like someone in politics that can have a bit of fun.
She came across as a very nice friendly lady,and as Keith said perhaps she didn't want to stand,but I would have backed her.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#9
I would love Batty Hattie to be Labour Leader - with her extreme feminist views........ she would be nearly as good a leader as Michael Foot.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#10
Clegg a nodding dog? Ohhhhhhhhhh yessssssss!!
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#11
barry is right here. his party would be in dreamland if the harperson lady became leader.
the tabloids would have a field day quoting all her daft statements on the front pages.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#12
HOWARD
No Idea what these DAFT statements as you call them were.
inform please ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#13
where do i start keith?
most recently we have two of her specials.
1) the equalising of constituency sizes would make the system less fair.
2) half the shadow cabinet should be women.
going back a bit she told the party conference in 2007 that the next general election would be easy to win.
she tried to bring in an "equality" bill that made it correct that if an employer was confronted with potential employees with the same qualifications, they should "positively" discriminate on the basis of race or gender.
when the recession set in, she said that women were losing out twice as bad as men, despite the statistics saying this was incorrect.
4 motoring convictions to her name, rebuked for not declaring loans and donations and worst of all backing diane abbot for the job of leader.
i can remember dopey comments from her over at least decades, i will have to dig them out.
#14
So Howard, she fits in well with the rest of the Labour party then! And I didn't even mention Mandelson, doh! Just did.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#15
thought i would resurrect this one after seeing the deputy prime minister in his constituency trying to explain why sheffield forgemaster cannot expand.
looked the same as he usually does nowadays, the guilty scchoolboy, same goes for vince cable.
the best thing that both can do is resign from government positions and not be associated with the present coalition.
they can both survive and come back again another time.
alexander should stay as he will never get the chance again to have any position of power.
i bet david laws is now thinking that he has come out best, expenses scandals get forgotten fairly quickly, his party will be looking for new leadership in the next year or so, he is prime position to take over.
#16
Ah but Howard, England will keep doing well in the World Cup, Andy Murray will reach the semis at Wimbledon, the cricket team will continune trashing the Aussies and, in 18 months the economy will be well on the mend thanks to Gorgeous Gorge.
The feel-good factor is on its way!
Under those circumstances Cleggy and Vince will rise like phoenixes from the flames of LibDem sandal-wearing disenchantment to reap the plaudits of their party for taking the action they did.
However, if Germany wins on Sunday, Murray loses his rag and form, and the Aussies turn us over, it won't matter what the economy does and both will be consigned to the political scrapheap, leaving Tories to do what they do best, run the country.
So, for the Blues, it's a win/win all the way.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#17
have you given the subject serious thought sid?
if the yellows implode, all their supporters and voters will go to the reds.
would leave your beloved party in the wilderness until the next split.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#18
latest poll today from the telegraph shows a 6% drop for the yellows since the election.
4% to the reds and 2% to the blues, leaving david with 41% a.n.other(red) 36% nick 16%
the observer had a poll showing 48% of yellow voters were less likely to vote for them in future.
i think that the times had some sort of poll but posh barry has put a trap on his letterbox so that i cannot "borrow" it from him.
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