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  blimey paulb
  what a shambles mate, maybe m,y prediction on the collapse of this cobbled together govt is not so far away.
  
  how can you have the main man abstain just in the hope of saving his seat
  which in reality hes unlikely to do anyway
  
  this just shows the desperation of the lib dems, but people will see through it.
  have to this time agree with barryw cable is gutless.
  
  
  
  getting back to other parts of the thread.
  
  
  hunting is cruel and if those that want to hunt and have all the nonsense of dressing up etc, then they can they can do drag hunting.
  
  this is where the dogs follow a scent, so jobs remain, dogs remain, horses remain, the dressing up brigade can continue.
  
  most important the fox can live.
  
  im by the way proud to be left wing theres nowt wrong with that.
  but iv also proved on here i can be right wing on some issues.
  
  not sure anymore what left or right wing is as the two have tended to merge
  
  nice that a debate might break out

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