howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,560
Over 5 of my yearly wages equals £100,000
Would the Council like to employ me on £50,000 and save everyone in the area money?
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Ray you are a wealth of information ,it made interesting reading . I think the clergy deserve more .Karlos I assume you have all the qualifications .degrees etc.in accountancy, engineering.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Sometimes I think that university degrees are the result of three years spent replacing common sense with a narrow set of skills and knowledge, and a superior attitude. (Tin helmet and flak jacket please).
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,259
There is certainly a large percentage of degree courses that are a waste of three years of a persons life. It used to be attractive to employ a graduate because you knew they had to have completed a difficult and challenging degree course, know far too many doss around for 3 yrs and think they deserve high praise and high pay because of it!
Arte et Marte
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
Depends on the degree Both . my sons obtained First class Honours in Engineering. One did it part time took six years as he was employed by a company who gave him time off to attend university .My Daughter obtained a second then went on whilst working full time to get a Masters .In no way are any of them superior .How could they be with a down to earth Mother .They all work very hard and richly deserve the results of long hours of study.
There Father would have been very proud.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Three of my grandchildren went to university, one is a solicitor, one is a teacher the other is unemployed and homeless although he unofficially stays with his girlfriend and gets temporary jobs, my two other grandchildren went straight into work after leaving school.
I think university is a complete waste of time for far to many saddling them with unwanted debt (fees and overdrafts) which is not the way to start their adult life.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Things went downhill when courses like Media Studies were brought in, from what people tell me Engineering is the most difficult with a good knowledge of Physics needed.
Guest 977- Registered: 27 Jun 2013
- Posts: 1,031
I worked in a university for 35 years. Things went rapidly downhill when Tony Blair decided 50% of school-leavers should study for a degree.
Stupid idea, nowhere near 50% of jobs need a degree and nowhere near 50% of students are capable of benefitting from getting one.
(Though of course the figure was achieved with a fudge by rebranding colleges and the certificates they awarded as universities offering degrees, and with a few exceptions, without the staff or facilities to provide one up to the standard of traditional universities.)
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,938
Sue Nicholas wrote:I think the clergy deserve more .
With the amount of rain we've had recently Sue they shouldn't be penniless!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,895
Blair's plan was simply a way of reducing the unemployment figures, he forgot that after spending all that extra time in education graduates would not want or feel expected to do 'menial' jobs.
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